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		<title>By: ridwanzero</title>
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		<dc:creator>ridwanzero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vashtirama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vashtirama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the inspiration, Kim: &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/2009-crochet-manifesto.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/200...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the inspiration, Kim: <br /><a href="http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/2009-crochet-manifesto.html" rel="nofollow">http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/200&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vashtirama</title>
		<link>http://www.kimwerker.com/2008/12/03/living-creatively/comment-page-1/#comment-5065</link>
		<dc:creator>Vashtirama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the inspiration, Kim: &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/2009-crochet-manifesto.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/200...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the inspiration, Kim: <br /><a href="http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/2009-crochet-manifesto.html" rel="nofollow">http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/200&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vashtirama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vashtirama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the inspiration, Kim: &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/2009-crochet-manifesto.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/200...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the inspiration, Kim: <br /><a href="http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/2009-crochet-manifesto.html" rel="nofollow">http://designingvashti.blogspot.com/2009/01/200&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim Werker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Werker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve hit on so many great topics, here. Many I plan to continue exploring
here on the blog, and I hope we get some good discussions going. But also,
your idea for a group is one I&#039;ve pondered for many weeks, now. I think it&#039;s
a great one, and I might have more info in coming weeks...

It&#039;s always an individual journey to forge your own creative life, but it&#039;s
also a journey best shared with others. We need each other for so many
things: For ideas, for support, for advice, for companionship.

Ok. More soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve hit on so many great topics, here. Many I plan to continue exploring<br />
here on the blog, and I hope we get some good discussions going. But also,<br />
your idea for a group is one I&#8217;ve pondered for many weeks, now. I think it&#8217;s<br />
a great one, and I might have more info in coming weeks&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always an individual journey to forge your own creative life, but it&#8217;s<br />
also a journey best shared with others. We need each other for so many<br />
things: For ideas, for support, for advice, for companionship.</p>
<p>Ok. More soon.</p>
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		<title>By: blondechicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>blondechicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim, I missed this when you first posted it and am bummed that I did! Hopefully it&#039;s not too late to jump in!&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re point about there not being rules for the creative life is exactly what seems to be the &quot;sticking point&quot; for me. It&#039;s not that I want rules, but I&#039;d like some...examples maybe? Or some guidance? Just, generally, some encouragement that living creatively, stepping off into my dream of full-time creativity can actually pay the bills.  My day job just barely covers the bills, my husband&#039;s job is very...sketchy (he works for a self-employed couple) and so the pressure to stay with the insurance and stability is overwhelming.&lt;br&gt;But it&#039;s not just that external pressure, it&#039;s also an internal insistence, just as strong as my creative drive, for security. I&#039;m committed to building the life I want, the one that fits ME that includes both living creatively AND not being in debt. So, hmm. I got off on a money-concern tangent there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes, I feel like, if I continue to chronicle my journey into building a sustainable creative life, I can become an example. But I&#039;d like some of my own to look to (like you and Shannon O).&lt;br&gt;And other times, I think that this is such an individual journey, that no one&#039;s will look enough like my own to give anything more than general encouragement.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe what we need is a community or tribe of people at various stages of this journey, all sharing their various trials, along with tips with each other, but also with the diy/freelance community at large (a group blog, a podcast, a forum)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim, I missed this when you first posted it and am bummed that I did! Hopefully it&#39;s not too late to jump in!<br />You&#39;re point about there not being rules for the creative life is exactly what seems to be the &#8220;sticking point&#8221; for me. It&#39;s not that I want rules, but I&#39;d like some&#8230;examples maybe? Or some guidance? Just, generally, some encouragement that living creatively, stepping off into my dream of full-time creativity can actually pay the bills.  My day job just barely covers the bills, my husband&#39;s job is very&#8230;sketchy (he works for a self-employed couple) and so the pressure to stay with the insurance and stability is overwhelming.<br />But it&#39;s not just that external pressure, it&#39;s also an internal insistence, just as strong as my creative drive, for security. I&#39;m committed to building the life I want, the one that fits ME that includes both living creatively AND not being in debt. So, hmm. I got off on a money-concern tangent there.</p>
<p>Sometimes, I feel like, if I continue to chronicle my journey into building a sustainable creative life, I can become an example. But I&#39;d like some of my own to look to (like you and Shannon O).<br />And other times, I think that this is such an individual journey, that no one&#39;s will look enough like my own to give anything more than general encouragement.</p>
<p>Maybe what we need is a community or tribe of people at various stages of this journey, all sharing their various trials, along with tips with each other, but also with the diy/freelance community at large (a group blog, a podcast, a forum)?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of reminds me of my mother... She once told me when I was young, that there is a secret language of babies, and only the young could see angels and speak to animals. As we grow, we lose touch with these natural instincts etc. And whether those little stories are myths or truth, the point lies not within the validity of them, but more so keeping touch with one&#039;s self... One&#039;s own inner language, or voice per se... Living creatively. To me, that is keeping in mind the standards of society, without losing sight of myself. Over time, we are conditioned by society&#039;s norms, standards... trends, expectations - &quot;normalcy.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many lose that creative inner voice... The one that always finds a way to make herself heard. It is whether or not we recognize it. I really think some do, to different degrees. Some listen just a little, enough to keep peace and fit in. Not that this is wrong, as I think for some, it is better for them to maintain that stance, psychologically. Then there are the others... Those who now only hear that little creative voice, but speak and live through it. Those are your *quit a good job in the middle of a recession* people :P&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was brought up with your typical American Family... siblings all finished college, have phenomenal stable jobs... huge houses, cars etc. I am so glad I was, because it was that that made me really truly hear my creative inner voice, of just how different I was, and what was transpiring within....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To move to a country cow town as a single mom, and eventually, start up a crochet business designing, to the dismay of many and  comments abundant &quot;You will never make it.....!&quot; Of course, I know they all only cared, and in their eyes, they could not fathom my logic... So, their words of wisdom were heartfelt, to the best of their understanding of the world - one which I was a part of. Like you said, understanding yourself. I understood them, and understood parts of myself that they did not. Really understanding yourself, your needs, and how you work , and then meeting those needs-  that is where the creative soul comes in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of reminds me of my mother&#8230; She once told me when I was young, that there is a secret language of babies, and only the young could see angels and speak to animals. As we grow, we lose touch with these natural instincts etc. And whether those little stories are myths or truth, the point lies not within the validity of them, but more so keeping touch with one&#39;s self&#8230; One&#39;s own inner language, or voice per se&#8230; Living creatively. To me, that is keeping in mind the standards of society, without losing sight of myself. Over time, we are conditioned by society&#39;s norms, standards&#8230; trends, expectations &#8211; &#8220;normalcy.&#8221; </p>
<p>Many lose that creative inner voice&#8230; The one that always finds a way to make herself heard. It is whether or not we recognize it. I really think some do, to different degrees. Some listen just a little, enough to keep peace and fit in. Not that this is wrong, as I think for some, it is better for them to maintain that stance, psychologically. Then there are the others&#8230; Those who now only hear that little creative voice, but speak and live through it. Those are your *quit a good job in the middle of a recession* people :P</p>
<p>I was brought up with your typical American Family&#8230; siblings all finished college, have phenomenal stable jobs&#8230; huge houses, cars etc. I am so glad I was, because it was that that made me really truly hear my creative inner voice, of just how different I was, and what was transpiring within&#8230;.</p>
<p>To move to a country cow town as a single mom, and eventually, start up a crochet business designing, to the dismay of many and  comments abundant &#8220;You will never make it&#8230;..!&#8221; Of course, I know they all only cared, and in their eyes, they could not fathom my logic&#8230; So, their words of wisdom were heartfelt, to the best of their understanding of the world &#8211; one which I was a part of. Like you said, understanding yourself. I understood them, and understood parts of myself that they did not. Really understanding yourself, your needs, and how you work , and then meeting those needs-  that is where the creative soul comes in.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Werker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Werker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t apologize for writing long comments! We have all the space in the
world. If you blog about this, too, let us know.

I&#039;m so happy you wrote about your experience; what an amazing accomplishment
to have put yourself to something and gotten it done. And to have enjoyed
it. I think one of the biggest challenges in following through with a
creative idea as big as yours is to make it sustainable. Yours was funded by
your severance package, and that should have been enough to stifle your
loved ones who might have otherwise worried about your well-being. Why
wasn&#039;t it enough? I wonder about things like that all the time. Frankly, I&#039;m
surprised not one person has commented to me that I&#039;ve gone and quit my job
during the worst economic débâcle in generationsI gave my notice at the
magazine a week (mere days!) before the stock-market crashes in September.
I&#039;ll certainly write here about how I (hopefully) end up making a living
doing something so unconventional at a time when people and business don&#039;t
have much money to spend. And looky here, I&#039;ve gone and hijacked what you
were saying. Are you still running the business you started before you took
your current job? Have any tips for people who want to live creatively?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t apologize for writing long comments! We have all the space in the<br />
world. If you blog about this, too, let us know.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so happy you wrote about your experience; what an amazing accomplishment<br />
to have put yourself to something and gotten it done. And to have enjoyed<br />
it. I think one of the biggest challenges in following through with a<br />
creative idea as big as yours is to make it sustainable. Yours was funded by<br />
your severance package, and that should have been enough to stifle your<br />
loved ones who might have otherwise worried about your well-being. Why<br />
wasn&#8217;t it enough? I wonder about things like that all the time. Frankly, I&#8217;m<br />
surprised not one person has commented to me that I&#8217;ve gone and quit my job<br />
during the worst economic débâcle in generationsI gave my notice at the<br />
magazine a week (mere days!) before the stock-market crashes in September.<br />
I&#8217;ll certainly write here about how I (hopefully) end up making a living<br />
doing something so unconventional at a time when people and business don&#8217;t<br />
have much money to spend. And looky here, I&#8217;ve gone and hijacked what you<br />
were saying. Are you still running the business you started before you took<br />
your current job? Have any tips for people who want to live creatively?</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Werker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Werker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I see what you mean. We do need rules (and if not rigid rules, then at
least guidelines, boundaries, routines) in our individual lives, don&#039;t we?
We often have to make them up on our own, though, as those aren&#039;t the rules
that are handed to us (or forced upon us, depending on your perspective).

Re: your first point, I never thought of my happiness living in Canada as
being related to my feeling of otherness, but now that you mention your own
experience I realize I&#039;ve had a very similar one, myself. Lots to think
about, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I see what you mean. We do need rules (and if not rigid rules, then at<br />
least guidelines, boundaries, routines) in our individual lives, don&#8217;t we?<br />
We often have to make them up on our own, though, as those aren&#8217;t the rules<br />
that are handed to us (or forced upon us, depending on your perspective).</p>
<p>Re: your first point, I never thought of my happiness living in Canada as<br />
being related to my feeling of otherness, but now that you mention your own<br />
experience I realize I&#8217;ve had a very similar one, myself. Lots to think<br />
about, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I absolutely loved it! And I learnt so much - marketing, packaging, pricing. Things that I would not have had the opportunity to learn had I stayed in my IT management job (which I did not love. No way. Was glad to be gone from it).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The money I received went straight onto our mortgage as we are a pair that hates debt, and I lived on my husband&#039;s salary. My family are mostly people who live to work (not work to live) - post-war, migrant folk who could have retired years ago but keep working to keep busy. My husband was great - I think he saw I was on the edge of a nervous breakdown, and he was equally frustrated that I couldn&#039;t find the time or energy to create in my spare time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have to say that while the business was successful, I was limited by how much people wanted to pay for my items (and really, how much I wanted to charge! I wanted to be reasonable), how much time I could invest in the designing and the creating, as opposed to the posting and the emailing and the listing. And there were some low points - the lack of confidence, as mentioned above, as well as the typical &quot;woman&#039;s guilt&quot; about not earning an adequate income, couple with my need for a proper &quot;break&quot; from working at all.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am still running my business, but on a limited basis due to lack of time. I wanted to go back to full-time work at a lower level, doing something completely different - something more creative. So now I get immersed in creating maps and helping with planning and policy. Not where I thought I&#039;d be a year ago, but I really wouldn&#039;t have it any other way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve been wanting to blog the journey for some time - lessons learned and what I still want to achieve. When I do, I&#039;ll let you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I absolutely loved it! And I learnt so much &#8211; marketing, packaging, pricing. Things that I would not have had the opportunity to learn had I stayed in my IT management job (which I did not love. No way. Was glad to be gone from it).</p>
<p>The money I received went straight onto our mortgage as we are a pair that hates debt, and I lived on my husband&#39;s salary. My family are mostly people who live to work (not work to live) &#8211; post-war, migrant folk who could have retired years ago but keep working to keep busy. My husband was great &#8211; I think he saw I was on the edge of a nervous breakdown, and he was equally frustrated that I couldn&#39;t find the time or energy to create in my spare time.</p>
<p>I have to say that while the business was successful, I was limited by how much people wanted to pay for my items (and really, how much I wanted to charge! I wanted to be reasonable), how much time I could invest in the designing and the creating, as opposed to the posting and the emailing and the listing. And there were some low points &#8211; the lack of confidence, as mentioned above, as well as the typical &#8220;woman&#39;s guilt&#8221; about not earning an adequate income, couple with my need for a proper &#8220;break&#8221; from working at all.</p>
<p>I am still running my business, but on a limited basis due to lack of time. I wanted to go back to full-time work at a lower level, doing something completely different &#8211; something more creative. So now I get immersed in creating maps and helping with planning and policy. Not where I thought I&#39;d be a year ago, but I really wouldn&#39;t have it any other way.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve been wanting to blog the journey for some time &#8211; lessons learned and what I still want to achieve. When I do, I&#39;ll let you know.</p>
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